Deu 21:18-21If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Spare the Rod Spoil the Child
I was on another website and there was this discussion about how just God's punishment is.
70-80 years of sinning = an eternity of burning in hell.
One theist defended his God's justice this way:
Lastly, you prove my point concerning the child in the street. Let's say you drove by as I was punishing my child for being in the street. Perhaps you think that a stern talking or time-out is sufficient for his or her disobedience. I, as the parent, have decided that a spanking or whipping is the correct punishment. My punishment is within the law and you have absolutely no authority to tell me that my punishment is wrong. It is simply your opinion. Perhaps you even get out of your car and plead, because you say, "A child should not get a spanking for simply going out into the street once and disobeying you." Well, now you are sharing your opinion based upon ignorance. How do you know this has not been a recurring problem? Perhaps that has been the 5th, or 50th, or even the 500th time that has happened. Perhaps I have given the child lesser consequences many, many times before, but they simply refused to obey.
I responded to him:
I would be calling Child Protect Services on your ass.
I suppose you think you have a right to stone your child.
This illustrates how our society is now more moral than the Bible. Those who cling to Bronze Age mentality are unwilling to grow up and want us to revert to a primitive society as if those were the good old days. Perhaps they want to pull us back there so the Bible will feel "more accurate" and they can feel safe. Grow up !!!!
One clear example that beating a child is unnecessary is the Dog Whisperer. Cesar Milan never hits a dog but stands in his presence and shows himself to be the pack leader. I am astounding again and again by the undisciplined and aggressive dogs he immediately corrects without violence. If you disagree or think the analogy is wrong watch the show, watch a number of them.
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.
Beating and Stoning no more.